more spending. are you following this? i'm not. maybe these guys are. ben stein, charles payne, sandra smith and adam and charl charlie. >> you laugh because you want to cry. >> neil: sometimes you laugh simply because you want to laugh. (laughter) >> since november 2011, we're 30 days away from this. are you serious? you want 50 billion in stimulus? it's nuts, crazy and disingenuous, if this is negotiating, we're in trouble. this is the ultimate power grab. the conduct is essentially split almost completely in half and this is saying to the other half, forget about you, forget about small businesses, forget about moderately successful couples who do everything the right way. we're going to crush you and crush the future of success of anybody in this nation. >> neil: sandra, he seems upset. >> rightly so. the president's proposal right now on the table as john boehner detailed this week, he basically said this is not a serious proposal and here he is asking for more spending, neil, what i find more conflicting, when, since when is the conversation, the natural conversation become near